A Few Words About The Quest Gaming Network – Fan Editorial

My name is Don, but I go by Bandgor on most things internet related.  If you watch the QGN live shows you will often find me in chat and I do stream for QGN most Tuesday nights for a few hours.  I started listening to the shows when Diablo III was close to launch and Diablo OTR was a weekly show.  I eventually started playing minecraft and listening to Minecraft OTR.  From there I applied to admin on the Minecraft server.  Once Minecraft OTR stopped airing I offered to fill a spot on the Twitch stream. It is probably the least watched show on the Twitch stream and I have no clue why they keep letting me do it, but its fun so I keep showing up each week.


Thats enough about me.  I am writing this with no clue if QGN will want to post it but I wanted to get it out there.  As The Elder Scrolls Online gets closer to launch I suspect that more and more people will begin saying things like ESOTR has sold out.  People will hint that the QGN folks get paid for favorable talk about the game.  I want to write in and offer my thoughts on the matter.


News sites, streamers, and podcasts get accused of providing favorable reviews all the time.  This happens in more than just gaming media and unfortunately sometimes it is true.  It came out January that Microsoft and Machinima had an agreement that paid Machinima youtube partners 3 dollars per 1000 views if the video had at least 30 seconds of XBox One footage and mentioned Xbox One by name. According to a joint statement from Microsoft and Machinima “This partnership between Machinima and Microsoft was a typical marketing partnership to promote Xbox One in December..”  If QGN and ESOTR were in a similar agreement with Zenimax each ESOTR Twitch stream would make on the best of days $1.50 per show.


ESOTR is often very positive when it comes to talking about Elder Scrolls Online.  This is because they truly love the franchise and for the majority love MMOs.  ESO will be something they have been waiting years for, but before thinking some kind of underhanded stealth marketing is going on stop and think.  Would a member of the cast talk about not getting the game?  Would they rake Zenimax over the coals episode after episode for not showing end game PVE content?  Would they need to bother with ten dollar shout outs and advertising on the show?


QGN is a site run by gaming fans for gaming fans.  To my knowledge not a single member of their team makes a living from what they do for QGN. Evarwyn the Paladin would not lie for money.  Dave would not pass up the chance to complain about a weak point in a game for money. Shank would not fudge the graphic capabilities of a game for money.  and Lou would not have more alts than account could hold if he did not plan on playing every single one.



  • Bandgor, thank you for posting this today. I too echo your sentiments exactly.

    Clearly all of the crew at QGN (not just the ESOTR crew – I am also talking about the other show hosts, the editorial staff, etc.) enjoy playing games of all types. And, they are very passionate about the games they love. That is why they do shows about them. It is not because they get paid to do so. They do it because they love it.

  • Don,
    Thank you for taking the time to put this out there. Nothing could be more hurtful or offensive than to be accused of being paid to speak positively about the games we love to play.

    As a cohost of RiftOTR, my feeling is this: Rift is almost 3 years old. That is fairly for an MMO. The “honeymoon” phase has ended and the player base is now broken into 2 categories: those that are trying it because it’s F2P, and those that LOVE the game.

    Liz and I have put our blood, sweat, and tears into RiftOTR and made it “ours”. Because Rift is past the initial exciting launch phase, there isn’t much interest in podcasts about the game. Heck, RiftOTR has at most 20 people watching it live. Thus, being paid by Trion to speak highly of their game would be a bad investment for them. Besides, RiftOTR has also mentioned other games made by Trion that we’re not too fond of.

    So what do we do it? Because I, and I’m sure Liz as well, LOVE Rift. We enjoy talking about it, sharing our stories and misadventures in Telara.

    Doing what is necessary for the podcast takes time from my family, as well as gaming time for myself. I don’t do it for money, because there isn’t any coming in from it. I do it because I LIKE doing it. And doing something you enjoy for fun, is far greater than doing something you’ll grow to resent for the sake of money.

    Thanks to all of our listeners who support our love of gaming.


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